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-Present: ​Azzurra, Claude, Donny, Erin, Hannah, Mary, Meghan, Molly, Nolan, Ryan, Victor, William+Present: ​Z, Claude, Donny, Erin, Hannah, Mary, Meghan, Molly, Nolan, Ryan, Victor, William
  
  
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-Nolan: We have a fundraising site. Paul has already given us $50 for the wireless. We should be getting another $150 from the people we're hosting the site with. That's just one of many campaigns we can launch. Charles will help us install some wireless equipment on Tuesday around 6:00. I'll need access to 206 on Tuesday; will talk to Azzurra ​or Andy.+Nolan: We have a fundraising site. Paul has already given us $50 for the wireless. We should be getting another $150 from the people we're hosting the site with. That's just one of many campaigns we can launch. Charles will help us install some wireless equipment on Tuesday around 6:00. I'll need access to 206 on Tuesday; will talk to or Andy.
  
  
-Azzurra: It can be arranged.+Z: It can be arranged.
  
  
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-Azzurra: Will the current internet remain in 206, or is that coming downstairs?+Z: Will the current internet remain in 206, or is that coming downstairs?
  
  
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-Azzurra: So there will be more stuff in my apartment?+Z: So there will be more stuff in my apartment?
  
  
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-Azzurra: For the sub-coop, would it be possible for some of us to come in as charter members? If 30 of us pitch in $100, that covers all of it. Could be an owner coop, and people could sell their shares when they move out.+Z: For the sub-coop, would it be possible for some of us to come in as charter members? If 30 of us pitch in $100, that covers all of it. Could be an owner coop, and people could sell their shares when they move out.
  
  
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-Azzurra: Been working with Keep Austin Fed. Hannah did all the work to have food getting here. We've had a Thursday snap delivery, a Friday egg delivery. On Sunday we were inundated with free food. We have more coming on Monday, tonight. William has stated that he will make sure there is storage available for Snap. We need a person to donate an hour of time to Keep Austin Fed, and I need a person to be back-up to receive food when it gets here.+Z: Been working with Keep Austin Fed. Hannah did all the work to have food getting here. We've had a Thursday snap delivery, a Friday egg delivery. On Sunday we were inundated with free food. We have more coming on Monday, tonight. William has stated that he will make sure there is storage available for Snap. We need a person to donate an hour of time to Keep Austin Fed, and I need a person to be back-up to receive food when it gets here.
  
  
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-Azzurra: I can. Hannah suggested a Google phone number to text all of us. For now, I need people to step forward to accept food. If you're interested in some of the more fine-tuned details about what we'll put on the bulk list and things, come to the meeting here on Thursday at 7:00. We'll go over the surveys that all of you will fill out before then.+Z: I can. Hannah suggested a Google phone number to text all of us. For now, I need people to step forward to accept food. If you're interested in some of the more fine-tuned details about what we'll put on the bulk list and things, come to the meeting here on Thursday at 7:00. We'll go over the surveys that all of you will fill out before then.
  
  
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-Azzurra: McALlen was in here and offered to store quite a bit of stuff. I did not have time to inventory. People across the street specifically requested eggs. I wanted to make sure that food was secured; didn't want food to sit in the sun.+Z: McALlen was in here and offered to store quite a bit of stuff. I did not have time to inventory. People across the street specifically requested eggs. I wanted to make sure that food was secured; didn't want food to sit in the sun.
  
  
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-Azzurra: Keep Austin Fed specifically said that, if we hadn't got the food, it would go into the trash. Had to be given away. Would not feel comfortable counting it as apart of the meal plan.+Z: Keep Austin Fed specifically said that, if we hadn't got the food, it would go into the trash. Had to be given away. Would not feel comfortable counting it as apart of the meal plan.
  
  
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-Azzurra: Over the week that's coming, we're basically relying on the fairies. On Wednesday we'll have a potluck that's scheduled. Some cooks have come forward. Next week we'll begin the new schedule. Meals will be served Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday. I need the surveys back by Thursday at 7:00.+Z: Over the week that's coming, we're basically relying on the fairies. On Wednesday we'll have a potluck that's scheduled. Some cooks have come forward. Next week we'll begin the new schedule. Meals will be served Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday. I need the surveys back by Thursday at 7:00.
  
  
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-Azzurra: Want Erin to understand that the objection is not with her. If this was previously voted on and concerned were not heard, we should consider those concerns. From speaking to Elaine and Maria, this is something that I've heard from them that they want. I almost ran over Elaine'​s littlest. Only reason I didn't was that I was counting them. I knew that, as soon as I hit the accelerator,​ he was going to run out. That's exactly what he did. I missed him by a couple of feet. I understand the concern about us becoming gated, but I don't want to run over any kids. I like the idea of people having to knock a little to get on our door. I understand the concern. I could seriously consider changing my point of view. What can we do to at least keep the children in, where parents sit upstairs, to at least make sure it's a closed circuit?+Z: Want Erin to understand that the objection is not with her. If this was previously voted on and concerned were not heard, we should consider those concerns. From speaking to Elaine and Maria, this is something that I've heard from them that they want. I almost ran over Elaine'​s littlest. Only reason I didn't was that I was counting them. I knew that, as soon as I hit the accelerator,​ he was going to run out. That's exactly what he did. I missed him by a couple of feet. I understand the concern about us becoming gated, but I don't want to run over any kids. I like the idea of people having to knock a little to get on our door. I understand the concern. I could seriously consider changing my point of view. What can we do to at least keep the children in, where parents sit upstairs, to at least make sure it's a closed circuit?
  
  
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-Azzurra: Could we make it a friendly amendment to make them unlocked?+Z: Could we make it a friendly amendment to make them unlocked?
  
  
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-Azzurra: Having just one ask might be better.+Z: Having just one ask might be better.
  
  
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-Azzurra: As long as the house has the ability to change course, I don't want you to wait another week. I just want to get it done.+Z: As long as the house has the ability to change course, I don't want you to wait another week. I just want to get it done.
  
  
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-Azzurra: Who's going to sign on our behalf?+Z: Who's going to sign on our behalf?
  
  
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-Azzurra: I would like us to think about process in general. I think this is a good step. Nolan brought up some good points on the list about people being able to see the c or i. At Occupy, we allowed them after every speaker. I think that people could make the signal or say it to get on stack. We don't have a time-keeper,​ but maybe we should. Could keep clarifying questions to 30 seconds.+Z: I would like us to think about process in general. I think this is a good step. Nolan brought up some good points on the list about people being able to see the c or i. At Occupy, we allowed them after every speaker. I think that people could make the signal or say it to get on stack. We don't have a time-keeper,​ but maybe we should. Could keep clarifying questions to 30 seconds.
  
  
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-Donny: I want to thank Azzurra ​for giving me the ideas from Occupy. I appreciate Nolan'​s comments for having a simple hand signal. Could jump in and say "​clarifying question,"​ and would be okay. Propose for it to be done after a proposal but not after each speaker.+Donny: I want to thank for giving me the ideas from Occupy. I appreciate Nolan'​s comments for having a simple hand signal. Could jump in and say "​clarifying question,"​ and would be okay. Propose for it to be done after a proposal but not after each speaker.
  
  
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-Azzurra: We had one at Occupy. We're adding an extra level of complexity with direct responses. It's not that hard to ask someone to keep stack.+Z: We had one at Occupy. We're adding an extra level of complexity with direct responses. It's not that hard to ask someone to keep stack.
  
  
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-Azzurra: I see both sides of the situation. Let's say that there are three people on the wait list: a, b, and c. Molly would like to live with C. Hannah says that C shouldn'​t be able to skip ahead of A and B. Once they move in, there'​s nothing to stop Molly from saying that she would like to live with C.+Z: I see both sides of the situation. Let's say that there are three people on the wait list: a, b, and c. Molly would like to live with C. Hannah says that C shouldn'​t be able to skip ahead of A and B. Once they move in, there'​s nothing to stop Molly from saying that she would like to live with C.
  
  
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-Azzurra: If she is advocating for needing the space, then presumably she would be willing to move. Since Molly has priority, she would move into it, and D (the person who lived with C) would move into her unit.+Z: If she is advocating for needing the space, then presumably she would be willing to move. Since Molly has priority, she would move into it, and D (the person who lived with C) would move into her unit.
  
  
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-Azzurra: I understand where Molly is coming from. I also think we need to consider what if Molly found a partner of her choice. Would we not allow her to jump because of that? We need to be very careful in comparison to student coops. Some of us are older and have responsibilities that make our living situation very important to us. If Andy moved out and I had a new roommate who I didn't get along with, then I'm going to break my lease and leave. Donny and Jesse have a privileged situation. I think the house would be uncomfortable if the house decided that the house needed the labor and they'd be forced to have a roommate. Could Molly bring a proposal to have people suspend and have people jump?+Z: I understand where Molly is coming from. I also think we need to consider what if Molly found a partner of her choice. Would we not allow her to jump because of that? We need to be very careful in comparison to student coops. Some of us are older and have responsibilities that make our living situation very important to us. If Andy moved out and I had a new roommate who I didn't get along with, then I'm going to break my lease and leave. Donny and Jesse have a privileged situation. I think the house would be uncomfortable if the house decided that the house needed the labor and they'd be forced to have a roommate. Could Molly bring a proposal to have people suspend and have people jump?
  
  
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-Azzurra: I've had it as a concern for a long time, that we're putting an unfair burden on the people moving into an apartment to fix it up. Some are in better shape than others. Some have greater skills than others. From the perspective of getting that unit fixed up, it makes sense for William to be living in it. Forwarding that information to the other two roommates puts Molly in the situation where they would know that they weren'​t picked.+Z: I've had it as a concern for a long time, that we're putting an unfair burden on the people moving into an apartment to fix it up. Some are in better shape than others. Some have greater skills than others. From the perspective of getting that unit fixed up, it makes sense for William to be living in it. Forwarding that information to the other two roommates puts Molly in the situation where they would know that they weren'​t picked.
  
  
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-Azzurra: My friend Katia is here. She brought us a coffee maker from Italy. Can't start using it yet. Brought an extra gasket(sp?​),​ as a replacement.+Z: My friend Katia is here. She brought us a coffee maker from Italy. Can't start using it yet. Brought an extra gasket(sp?​),​ as a replacement.
  
  
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-Azzurra: In the past, Nolan and I were having a conversation,​ and a bunch of people started showing up. I went into street preacher mode and was yelling. Nolan had no way of knowing that I wasn't yelling at him. By the time I was done, Nolan was shaking like a leaf and terrified. I'd say that that's the night that we became friends. Wasn't my intention to scare him, but, nevertheless,​ I did. There'​s an extra level of complexity for him in gaging the level of danger for a situation. Normally I'd say to get a gun. I understand where you're coming from. At the same time, I feel like you need to have really clear expectations of what you expect to achieve.+Z: In the past, Nolan and I were having a conversation,​ and a bunch of people started showing up. I went into street preacher mode and was yelling. Nolan had no way of knowing that I wasn't yelling at him. By the time I was done, Nolan was shaking like a leaf and terrified. I'd say that that's the night that we became friends. Wasn't my intention to scare him, but, nevertheless,​ I did. There'​s an extra level of complexity for him in gaging the level of danger for a situation. Normally I'd say to get a gun. I understand where you're coming from. At the same time, I feel like you need to have really clear expectations of what you expect to achieve.
  
  
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-Azzurra: Many of us come from backgrounds where violence isn't an option. For a lot of the people who live here, violence is a fact of life. If we're not going to be gentrifiers,​ then I think there'​s a certain amount of blending that will have to occur. A cop came by and was confused; things were totally different than they were nine months ago. Children didn't used to play outside nearly as often as they do now. I know that it's really upsetting. Sometimes it means hearing gunshots and not caring.+Z: Many of us come from backgrounds where violence isn't an option. For a lot of the people who live here, violence is a fact of life. If we're not going to be gentrifiers,​ then I think there'​s a certain amount of blending that will have to occur. A cop came by and was confused; things were totally different than they were nine months ago. Children didn't used to play outside nearly as often as they do now. I know that it's really upsetting. Sometimes it means hearing gunshots and not caring.
  
  
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